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Errors in the summary of the featured article
Errors with "In the news"
Errors in "Did you know ..."
- ... that John Hawks was the first professionally trained architect to stay in the Thirteen Colonies?
- Why him (1731-1790, stayed in the Colonies from 1764 on) and not e.g. Peter Harrison (architect) (1716-1775, professionally trained 1743-1745, stayed in the Colonies from 1745 on)[1]? There's also someone like William Buckland (architect), perhaps others. Fram (talk) 11:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hm. I should've known better than to trust a state library on that claim. Damn hometown hero effect. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 01:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- pulled due to counterexample. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hm. I should've known better than to trust a state library on that claim. Damn hometown hero effect. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 01:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- The article says "Hawks was the first professionally-trained architect to practice in North Carolina, as well as the first to reside permanently in the Thirteen Colonies." That's a different claim! Secretlondon (talk) 17:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Is it? I don't think it's saying he's the first N. Carolinian to stay, and what's the difference between "stay" and "reside permanently"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 01:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Reside permanently means live there. Stay can be a few days. Secretlondon (talk) 14:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Anyway it's been pulled. Secretlondon (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Is it? I don't think it's saying he's the first N. Carolinian to stay, and what's the difference between "stay" and "reside permanently"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 01:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Why him (1731-1790, stayed in the Colonies from 1764 on) and not e.g. Peter Harrison (architect) (1716-1775, professionally trained 1743-1745, stayed in the Colonies from 1745 on)[1]? There's also someone like William Buckland (architect), perhaps others. Fram (talk) 11:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- "... that despite being an ordinary commuter train, the Cannonball (pictured) was known for its Friday-night parties?" The article doesn't actually say that the train was known for these parties, just that it hosted them. I don't have access to the newspaper cutting, but the Sanders book also doesn't support that the train was known for these parties. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 11:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Why "Kingdom of Bicycles" and not "自行车王国", but "məθkʷəy̓" and not "Muthkwey"? Americanist phonetic notation is not written in English or the Latin alphabet, although some parts resemble it, and is unintelligible for probably more people here than Mandarin (or Cantonese or whichever is used). We don't use "Цэцэйхэн" for Checheyigen either, even though that one as well has some recognisable characters. Fram (talk) 11:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- If this were about the title of the article, I would fully agree with you. However, given that this is a hook in DYK, and furthermore is the "quirky" hook as well, I'd be inclined not to say this is a hill to die on. Put it this way - there have been significantly more egregious liberties taken in the quirky slot over the years, that I'd be consider more worth fighting than this one... — Amakuru (talk) 15:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's the attitude that just makes these issues go on and on and on though... There is nothing "quirky" about a hook being unreadable for most readers, and there seems to be no reason why this is done in this case and not in others (and it is a good thing it isn't done in other cases). Fram (talk) 16:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- More generally, the article itself does not meet accessibility standards (MOS:OTHERLANG) and MOS:FORITA. Making the hook and article accessible for all readers, instead of most, seems a rather good hill to die on to me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Speaking of italics, {{lang}} doesn't automatically italicize Halkomelem-language text; AFAICT this is because it considers it to be written in a non-Latin script. If that's correct, then we need to transliterate it per MOS:NOTLATIN. Otherwise, it should be manually italicized. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- More generally, the article itself does not meet accessibility standards (MOS:OTHERLANG) and MOS:FORITA. Making the hook and article accessible for all readers, instead of most, seems a rather good hill to die on to me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's the attitude that just makes these issues go on and on and on though... There is nothing "quirky" about a hook being unreadable for most readers, and there seems to be no reason why this is done in this case and not in others (and it is a good thing it isn't done in other cases). Fram (talk) 16:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- If this were about the title of the article, I would fully agree with you. However, given that this is a hook in DYK, and furthermore is the "quirky" hook as well, I'd be inclined not to say this is a hill to die on. Put it this way - there have been significantly more egregious liberties taken in the quirky slot over the years, that I'd be consider more worth fighting than this one... — Amakuru (talk) 15:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've unpiped it.--Launchballer 23:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think it should be wrapped in {{transliteration|hur}} now (displaying as muthkwey), per WP:DYKMOS § C10. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- In which case the article itself also needs to be updated to match, and the above accessibility concerns addressed. If this needs more time, we can replace this and run it later. — Amakuru (talk) 11:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think that would be a good idea. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- In which case the article itself also needs to be updated to match, and the above accessibility concerns addressed. If this needs more time, we can replace this and run it later. — Amakuru (talk) 11:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think it should be wrapped in {{transliteration|hur}} now (displaying as muthkwey), per WP:DYKMOS § C10. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've unpiped it.--Launchballer 23:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- "... that despite her education in classical music and over her family's objections, Celie Ellis Turner chose comic opera and farce?" This makes no sense. "Comic opera" is a genre of classical music, so you can't choose comic opera despite an education in classical music. Fram (talk) 11:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. See comic opera Secretlondon (talk) 14:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- The hook, as approved, doesn't have this error. Secretlondon (talk) 14:53, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. See comic opera Secretlondon (talk) 14:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- "... that a book known as the "Polish Pinocchio" was published a hundred years ago?" How does this meet the "interesting" requirement? Every book is published at some time and will at some time be 100 years old. Fram (talk) 11:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose some might find the "some times" being this year and 1924 interesting? I don't really. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also the article says "is sometimes known as", we have turned that into "known as". Secretlondon (talk) 15:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- "... that Twitter's rules were changed when StoneToss sought help from Elon Musk after an anti-fascist group published materials claiming to have revealed their identity?" It was called X at the time this happened, not Twitter. Fram (talk) 11:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. The article was full of Twitter referring to 2024 too. Secretlondon (talk) 15:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Someone has reverted the article claiming that Wikipedia always calls it twitter, even when referring to 2024. Secretlondon (talk) 15:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. The article was full of Twitter referring to 2024 too. Secretlondon (talk) 15:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Errors in "On this day"
- Apollo 12
In the Apollo 12 launch, 'becoming' is incorrect - the launch did not involve landing on the Moon, that happened on a later date. You mean something like 'ten days later it became' or 'it would go on to become'. Modest Genius talk 13:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Sherman's March to the Sea is POTD, so it should probably be swapped out on OTD (technically it's not the bold article on OTD, but it's still repetitive).:Jay8g [V•T•E] 03:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Errors in the summary of the featured list
- There are three redirects in the blurb
- CJ E&M - pipe to CJ ENM Entertainment Division JennyOz (talk) 05:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Mnet Asian Music Awards - pipe to MAMA Awards JennyOz (talk) 05:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Big Bang (band) - pipe to BigBang (South Korean band) (nb no space in band name) JennyOz (talk) 05:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- "music video-centered" - pls swap hyphen to suffix dash JennyOz (talk) 05:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed all of them. Schwede66 07:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)